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Yokarda beren videomda yazya namanin tapawutlydygyny. Meselem videonyn 0.26 sekundynda: mark 1 de gecyan son of god codexde yokmys. Eysem bu kicijik harp yalnysymy? Sonam su wagtky injillerde gecyan kop yazgylar ol kodeksde yok.
Dost Hudaý Kuranda kurany gorajakdygyny aýdýan bolsa Hudaý Töwratdan başlap ähli kitaplarynda Öz Sözüni gorajakdygyny aýdýar!
Zemli dogry aytyan.Men pikirimçede kiçijik harp yalnyşy dal
Sutayda sol kitap hakynda yazylan makala bar(http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/the-big-question-what-is-the-codex-sinaiticus-and-what-does-it-reveal-about-the-bible-1734439.html)Sotayda It includes two works which have since been dropped from both Catholic and Protestant Bibles – The Shepherd of Hermas, a heavily allegorical work full of visions and parables and The Epistle of Barnabas, which contains highly-charged language about the Jews as the killers of Christ
. diyya. Muna name diyyan.Zemmli menin ingilizcam gaty gowy dal.Kyn görmesen terjime eday
Orscasy googla gora:Она включает две работы, которые впоследствии были изъяты из католическую и протестантскую Библию - Пастырь Ерма, сильно аллегорические произведение, полное видений и притч и Послание Варнавы, которая содержит очень заряженный языке о евреях The Killers Христа
Umuman su wagtky katolik ve protestan injillerden tapawutly iki sany is(bolumu) barmys codex sinatitusda. Sol ikinjisinde Hz. Isa'ny yewreyler oldurdi diyyamis. Yone su wagtky hristiyanlar romalylar odurdi diyyamis.
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Zemli dost, Sinaitus codex eke-tak cheshme dal, dost, eger uns beren bolsang ol butin Mukaddes Yazgylar toplumynyng grek dilindaki terjimesi. eyyam 350-nji yyllarda Mukaddes yazgylar yygyndysy bir kitap gornushinde eyyam bolupdyr, bu oz ichine Yahduilering Kone Aht kitaplaryny we Taze aht kitaplaryny alypdyr. Bu codexden bashga, Injiling has gadymy golyazmalary bar. Bu sebapden ol dine bizing gunumize chenli yetip gelen eke-tak cheshme dal. Sebabi ondan onki bar bolan saklanyp galan gadymy golyazmalar esasynda, bu codex esasynda, shol dowurdaki ylahy taglymatchylarynyng kitaplara salgylanmalary esasynda, olar dolydyrlar. Ondan bashga goz onunde tutulmaly zat, ing irki birinji yazgylardan gochurme arkaly sonky yazgylar saklanyp galypdyr we yayradylypdyr. Bu yagday Kuran bilen hem sheyledir, chunki kuranyng ing original yazgylary bu gunki yok, chunki Muhammeding dilinden eshidilip ilkinji yazgylar, hurma agajynyng gabygyna, dashlara, kuyzelere yazylypdyr, kabir kurralar tarapyndan yat tutulypdyr. Gelip Abu Bakr Muhammet oleninden song ony bir kitap gornushine getiripdir. Yone shonda hem kurralar arasynda we olaryng yygnan kitaplarynyng durli okalyandyg uchin durli yerlerde dawa turupdyr. Gelip Muhammet olenden songra Abu Bakr, Umar hem dunyaden otenden songra, halyf Omar 29 yyldan songra yene-de bar bolan yazgylary bir yere yygnap gochurmegi we bir kitaba yygnamagy tabshyryar we we bir nusga edenden songra bolsa bashga bar bolan yazgylary yakmagy we yok etmegi buyuryar. Shol Usmanyng yygnan Kurany hem bizing gunlerimize chenli gelip yetmandir, yened olardan gochurilen golyazmalaryng ing gadymkysy gelip 150 yl songra yagny 8-nji asyryng sonun degishlidir. Kuranyng durli golyazmalarynda tapawutlar yagny harp yada sozlering yetmezchilik edyandigi faktdyr. Emma Kuran taryhy yazgy bolan uchin we birnache gezek gadymy golyazmalardan gochurilendig uchin sheyle bolup biler, emma heniz bu Kuranyng uytgedilendigi anlatmayara!Hemme taryhy kitaplaryng saklanyshy bizing gunumize chenli yetmegi sheyle yagdayda bolup gechyar!
Eger gadymy golyazmalar bolan kitaplara ulanylyan taryhy seljermeging bir hili kriteriyasy bolyan bolsa, shol kriteria her kitaba shol ulanylmaly her kitaba her hili kriteriya dal.
Sylapmen codex siniatusa oldest bible in the world diyipdir independentde Paul Vallely. Sol makalany yazmanka gozlesdirip gorendir. Su wagtky injillerden tapawudyny nadip dusundirjkek? Iki sany uytgesik bolumi barmys. Su wagtkylar bilen den gelenok. Gurhana geleli:Narrated Zaid bin Thabit:Abu Bakr As-Siddiq sent for me when the people of Yamama had beenkilled (i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought againstMusailama). (I went to him) and found 'Umar bin Al-Khattab sitting withhim. Abu Bakr then said (to me), Umar has come to me and said:Casualties were heavy among the Qurra' of the! Qur'an (i.e. those whoknew the Quran by heart) on the day of the Battle of Yalmama, and Iam afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the Qurra'on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost.Therefore I suggest, you (Abu Bakr) order that the Qur'an becollected. I said to 'Umar, How can you do something which Allah'sApostle did not do? 'Umar said, By Allah, that is a good project.Umar kept on urging me to accept his proposal till Allah opened mychest for it and I began to realize the good in the idea which 'Umar hadrealized. Then Abu Bakr said (to me). 'You are a wise young man andwe do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write theDivine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle. So you should search for (thefragmentary scripts of) the Qur'an and collect it in one book). By AllahIf they had ordered me to shift one of the mountains, it would not havebeen heavier for me than this ordering me to collect the Qur'an. Then Isaid to Abu Bakr, How will you do something which Allah's Apostle didnot do? Abu Bakr replied, By Allah, it is a good project. Abu Bakrkept on urging me to accept his idea until Allah opened my chest forwhat He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and 'Umar. So I startedlooking for the Qur'an and collecting it from (what was written on)palmed stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it byheart, till I found the last Verse of Surat At-Tauba (Repentance) with AbiKhuzaima Al-Ansari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him.The Verse is:'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongstyourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury ordifficulty..(till the end of Surat-Baraa' (At-Tauba) (9.128-129) Then thecomplete manuscripts (copy) of the Qur'an remained with Abu Bakr tillhe died, then with 'Umar till the end of his life, and then with Hafsa, thedaughter of 'Umar.Narrated Anas bin Malik:Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people ofSham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya andAdharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq)differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to 'Uthman, Ochief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about theBook (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before. So 'Uthman sent amessage to Hafsa saying, Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an sothat we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies andreturn the manuscripts to you. Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman thenordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts inperfect copies. 'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, In case youdisagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write itin the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue.They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthmanreturned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. 'Uthman sent to everyMuslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered thatall the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentarymanuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Said bin Thabit added, A Versefrom Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and Iused to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and foundit with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among theBelievers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.'
Yokardaky hadislary gowyja okasan Gurhanyn uytgemedigine goz yetirersin. Bold eden yerlerime gowyja dusun, sham ve iraqdakylaryn gurleyan arapcasy uytgesik kureyslilerin arapcasyndan. Son ucin olar uytgesik okap baslapdyrlar. Son Hz. Hafsadaky Gurhany(Hz. Ebu Bekir dowrunde kitap halyna getirilen ) kopeltyarler, kureislilerin diyalekti boyunca. Sebabi Gurhan qureislilerin diyalektinde indi. Hz. Ebu Bekir dowrunde Gurhany yatdan bilyan kopdi, solar olmanka bir kitap seklinde toplayarlar. Sen bolsa uytgedip aydan bolyan, 29 yil sonra tazeden yazdylar diyip. Sen ozun okayanmy bir hadyslary ya da beyleki hristiyanlaryn yazanlaryny terjime edip aydyberyanmi?
Cesme:Translation of Sahih BukhariTranslator: M. Muhsin Khan
Hristianlyk bilen Yslamyng tapawudy Isa Mesihing Mesihdiginde yagny Onung bu dunya Halasgar bolup gelendigidir we Ol hakyndaky Hosh Habaryng dunyaning sonuna chenli wagyz edilmegindedir! Isany yone bir pygamber hasap etsede, Onung Mesihdigini yagny Halasgardini we Onung adamzadyng gunasi uchin gurbanlyk guzy hokmunde olendigini we direlendigini, goge galyp Hudayng sagynda oturandygyna ynanmayar we garshy chykysh edyar!Iudaizm bilen Hristianlygyng tapawudy hem Isa Mesihde chunki Iudaizming garashyan Mesihi Isa Mesihde 2000 yyl mundan ozal geldi, emma olar syyasy zatlara garashandygy uchin we Mesihing ikinji gezek gelmegi bilen birinji gezek gelmegini garyshdyrandyklary uchin Ony ozlerining Halasgari hokmunde kabul etmediler. Chunki Isa Mesih birinji gezek gelende olara gunalerden gutulyshy yagny ruhy gutulyshy bermek uchin gelipdi, olar bolsa munga dushunmediler. Bu sebapden Isa Mesih kopler uchin budreme dashy boldy, emma iman edenler uchin bolsa iman binasynyng esasy boldy!Iudaizm Towratdan bashlap Mesih baradaky aydylan pygamberliklering kopusine ynanyarlar emma syasy bir patyshalygy goz onunde tutanlyklary uchin, we yerde bir patysha garashandyklary uchin Isa Mesih kabul etmediler we hatda ony olume tabshyrdylar. Isa Mesih bolsa Hudayng Patyshalygyny olaryng ilki bilen kalbynda gurmak uchin gelipdi we bu uchin pasgel beryan guna we sheytan problemasyny chozmage gelipdi! Iudaizming yene-de dushunmedik zady Huday Isa Mesih arkaly butin milletleri hem iman mashgalasyna goshmakchydy, yahudiler muny goz onune getirip bilmeyardiler, chunki olar Hudayng dine olar bilen bar bolan aragatnashygyna ynanyardylar, emma Huday dine bir halky soyman bashga milletlerden hem ozune bir halk saylap almakchydy, muny bolsa olar goz onune getirip bilmeyardiler. Olar hazir hem sheyle pikir edyarler we iudaizm dine ewrey halky uchin bolup galmagynda galyar. Ine bu sebapden hem iki din bar, olar heniz hem Mesihe garashyarlar we dunyaning sonunda geljek yalan mesihe ynanarlar, ol yalan mesih hem olary kop ezyetlere sezewar eder, chunki yalan mesih sheytandan geler, emma Isa Mesih sonunda gelip ol yalan mesihi yagny Mesihe garshy goreshijini yok eder we ysrayyly we milletlerden bolan imanlylary hemishelik sheytandan halas eder!
Zemli Abu Bakr tarapynda bir gezek yygnalan bolsa, onda name uchin yene manuscripts diyip goyazmalary diyip kopluk sanda aydyar, ondan bashgada eger Zaid bilen ylalashmasanyz onda kuraish dialektinde sizing ozuniz yazyng diyyar, eger Abu Bakr bir kitap edip yygnan bolsa, onda shol kurany Hafsa bize iber biz shondan hem nusga gochureris diyse bolanokmy? Ondan bashgada, seret name bolup gechyar: Versefrom Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and Iused to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and foundit with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among theBelievers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.'
Surat Ahzab ayadyny biz tapmadyk hachanda biz Kurany gochurenimizde, yone biz ony ong Allanyng Resulyndan eshidiyardik. Songra biz ony gozledik we Khuzaima bin Thabit al Ansariden tapdyk...Onda name Abu Bakr yygnanynyng ichinde shol ayat yok ekenda, onda, name uchin beyle bolyar eger kamil bolyan bolsa...Belkide bashga ayatlar hem yokdur? Kurralaryng hemmesi gatnashdymy yok, Zaidden bashgada awtoritet bolan Kuranyng yygnanlar bolupdyr...eger olaryng kitaplary dogry boljak bolsa,onda olary yakmagy buyurmak name gerek bolduka...?
Zemli dost eger Kuranyng yygnalyshy barada we Injiling yygnalyshy we olaryng kitap gornushinde bizing dowurlerimize yetip gelmegini obyektiw owrenmek isleseng we olar barasynda birhili kriteria ulanyp seretmek isleseng onda ine shu makalany okap goray! Bu makala inlis dilinde yazylan, sen goryan inlis dilini bilyarsing!http://www.answering-islam.org/Campbell/s3c3b.html
Sylapmen dost sen KUR'AN-yn hoş habar gabat gelenok,yagny allanyn maksatlaryna gabat gelenok diydin.Men indi senden sorayan.Senin hoş habaryn adamlara nahili hereket etmegi buyuryar.Yagny nameleri ündeyar.Sen kyn görman mazmuny çykar.Men onsan sana gabat gelip gelmeyanini aytjak.Yada sen sözme söz gabat gelmeyan yerlerini subut et.
sylapmen: Hristianlyk bilen Yslamyng tapawudy Isa Mesihing Mesihdiginde yagny Onung bu dunya Halasgar bolup gelendigidir we Ol hakyndaky Hosh Habaryng dunyaning sonuna chenli wagyz edilmegindedir!
Yslam dini Hz İsanyn pygamberligini inkar edenok.Yslam Hz.İsanyn Allanyn oglydygyny inkar edyar.İkinji barada aytsam.Senin hoş habaryn adamlara nahili zatlara etmekligi maslahat beryar bilemok, yöne Yslam Adama ''Emr-i bi'l ma'rûf ve nehy-i anil münker'' yagny gowyly ündap erbetlikden yüz öwürtmegi in birinji wezipe belleyar.Muhammet pygamber(s.a.v) Allanyn ady dünyade güneşip dogup batyan her yerine barjakdyr diyyar.Yagny bey diymek bilen Allanyn adyny bize dünyanin her tarapyna yaymagymyzy ündeyar.Hz İsa hoş habary yaymagy ündeyan bolsa Muhammet(s.a.v) pygamberem bize yokarda yazan zatlarymy ündeyar.Yagny bu iki dinin tapawudy dal.Sen has ulyrak üytgeşiklik tapsana gayrat edip.
Sen gayrat edip hoş habar diyip bagra düşen zadyny aytsana.Nameler diyyar.
Dss dostjan, Isa MEsih baradaky Injil bolan HOş Habar Hudaýyň biziň üçin bolan rehimi we merhemeti, adalaty, gudraty we akyldarlygydyr! Çünki Injilde Hudaý bize hemişe basgy salýan gunä we gara-güýçleriň hökümdary şeýtanyň güýjünden halas bolmagy we gelege bolan umydy ýagny günäniň muzdy dowzah odundan bolan gutulyşy aýan edýär! Haçanda biz Isa Mesihi Halasgär hökmünde kabul edenimizde, bize günäniň we şeýtanyň üstünden ýeňişli durmuşda ýaşamagy öwredýär we güýç-kuwwat berýär! Çünki Hudaýsyz biz ýeňiş gazanyp bilmeýäris, munuň üçin Hudaý Isa Mesihe Halasgär hökmünde ynanlara Özüniň Mukaddes Ruhyndan kalbyna girew berýär we Ol bize hemişe ýardam edýär! Ine bular bolsa ähli milletlere wagyz edilmelidir. Hudaýyň bize gündelik öwredýänleri ine şu iň uly tabşyrykdan ugur alýar:
Mugallym, kanunda iň uly tabşyryk näme?» diýip sorady. Isa oňa şeýle diýdi: «„Hudaýyň Rebbi bütin ýüregiň, bütin janyň, bütin düşünjäň bilen söý. Şu birinji we iň uly tabşyrykdyr. Ikinji hem şonuň ýaly: „Goňşyňy özüň ýaly söý. Bütin kanun we pygamberler ýazgylary şu iki tabşyryga baglydyr».
Dss Kuran bolsa Isany ýöne bir pygamber edip görkezýär, Ol arkaly boljak ýeňişli ýaşaýyş barada zat aýdanok, Ol baradaky habaryň dünýäniň ähli milletlerine wagyz edilmegini aýdanok, gaýtam garşy çykyp göreşýär! Bu beýle bolmaly däl, eger Kuranyň Hudaýy Injiliň Hudaýy bolsa?!
Waskammmmm.Suw etdin darey.Sen yazsana Kur'anyn hoş habara garşy çykyan,gaytam ona garşy çykyp söweşyan yerlerini yazsana.Hayyşt yaşuly.
Sizin asyl maksadynyz adamlara Hudaya tanatmak dalde İsany dünya tanatmak yaly yazyanlay.Name üçin Kur'an Hoş habara garşy gidyamişin.Kur'an adamlara dinge yagşylyk etmegi,güna iş etmezligi,İlin hakyny iymezligi,Dinge arassa yaşamagy ündeyar.Şul aydylyan zatlar hoş habara garşy bolsa sizin hoş habar name ündeyar.Mena hayran
Bir ayatyn yazylmagy ucin iki sayat gerek. i used to hear diyya birinji sayat ozi, ikinji sayaty gozleyar olam Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. Sen hadyslaryn dowamynam oka. Beydip men barde post edenlerimi kritikovat edip otyrma. Sonam sen name ucin goni Gurhana zat diyip basladyn? Eysem Injilin uytgedilenini kabul etdinmi? Injil uytgedilen We Gurhanam uytgedilen diyip subut etjek bolyanmy? Sen Gurhana zat diymezden on codex siniatus barada beren soraglaryma gowyja jogap ber.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/compare.htmSol yerde endnote dan on gelyan sozlemi oka(When we invite you to become a Christian we are only asking you to accept the Bible.) Son sol saytda obyektiw diyjek bolyanmy. Goni bildirip dur hristiyanlarynkydygy.