Kimiňki dogry - belli däl, ýöne habar şeýleräk....(Hürriyet)
Gysgaça terjime:
*Türk gurluşyk kompaniýalary Türkmenistandan algymyz 1 milliard USD diýýär.
*Puly tölenmeýän türk kompaniýa 40 sany diýýär.
*25 kompaniýa suda çykjak diýýär.
*Käbir türk biznesmenleri TM-de ýygnapdyrlar.
*Biziň ýaşuly Güle jaň edip "sud işini ýatyraly" diýipdir.
*Türkiýäniň resmi delegasiýasy Aşgabada ugramakçy.
Turkish contractors in Turkmenistan facing payment crisis (Hürriyet)
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkish-constructors-in-turkmenistan-facing-payment-crisis-2011-04-24
GÖKHAN KURTARAN
ISTANBUL- Hürriyet Daily News
Sunday, April 24, 2011
Turkish construction companies in Turkmenistan are on the edge of big losses as the government rejects to pay an alleged $1 billion for completed or ongoing projects, businessmen say. The Turkmen government is either seizing equipment or offering new and attractive contracts to overcome upcoming legal problems, they say
Turkish construction firms doing business in Turkmenistan are facing financial problems as the government is rejecting to pay the cost of completed projects worth $1 billion, according to contractors speaking to the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review on Sunday.
“More than 40 Turkish construction firms have been subjected to mistreatment,” said Tarık Bozbey, head of the Mediterranean Exporters Union and head of Bozbey Construction. “Turkish firms there are in a serious financial struggle.”
Bozbey said that because the Turkmen government was not making its obligatory payments the construction of some projects could not be completed. The government seized construction vehicles and equipment from some Turkish firms “illegally,” according to Bozbey. “This means billions of dollars in losses for the firms,” he said, adding that the Turkmen state had violated international laws by mistreating the Turkish firms.
“And yet Turkmenistan continues to invite Turkish firms for new infrastructure and construction projects worth nearly $4 billion,” Bozbey said, adding that the firms are hesitating over starting up new projects. “As we have already lost million of dollars, how can we consider new projects?”
Talking to the Daily News, Ozan İçkale, a board member of İçkale Construction, said Turkmenistan, which called on Turkish firms in early 2006, has changed its attitude toward international companies due to its decreasing income from energy resources.
According to İçkale, Turkmenistan President Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedov increased the price of natural gas from $60 to $160 in 2007. Relying on energy income from the state, the president signed contracts with Turkish construction firms to turn Ashgabat into a “new Dubai.”
Russia had been importing nearly 50 billion cubic meters of natural gas annually via Gazprom until an explosion at a Turkmen pipeline in April 2009. Various allegations by Moscow and Ashgabat paved the way for a serious decrease in gas exports and income for the Turkmen government, İçkale said. “They started to urge Turkish firms to rush and complete construction projects with no payment,” he said. When Turkish firms there started facing serious difficulties in financing their operations, “The Turkmen authorities seized our vehicles and equipment worth nearly $12 million,” said İçkale.
“Some Turkish businessmen are even imprisoned with no clear accusations,” claimed İçkale, without giving any names. According to İçkale, the government is forcing Turkish firms to leave the country before paying the total cost of the projects.
His company had contracts worth nearly $350 million, but collect only $205 million so far, İçkale said. These projects include a hotel in Turkmenbashi, irrigation canals in Abada city, a 72-house residence project, two schools, a theater and a convention center in Ashgabat. İçkale said the cost of seized vehicles and equipment owned by his company was nearly $100 million.
“Turkmenistan has been one of the most important markets for Turkish construction firms after Libya caused firms to loose millions of dollars,” said İçkale.
Legal action
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a Turkish businessman who still has investments in Turkmenistan said nearly 25 Turkish firms would apply to the International Center for Settlement of Investments Disputes, or ICSID, in two weeks’ time.
The ICSID is an autonomous international institution established under the Convention on the Settlement of Investment Disputes between states and nationals of other states with over 140 member states.
“Such a move will put Turkmenistan in a tough position, as Turkmenistan has already violated international laws and mistreated many Turkish investors,” the businessman said.
President takes initiative
According to the businessman, Turkmenistan President Berdimuhamedov recently called Turkey’s President Abdullah Gül and asked for the Turkish firms to not file against the Turkmen state at the ICSID. Gül decided to organize a trip to Turkmenistan to discuss the matter and resolve the dispute together with Turkish Foreign Trade Minister Zafer Çağlayan, the source said.
The source also said an independent institution based in the United Kingdom has been working to determine the amount of the losses of Turkish firms in Turkmenistan. The result will be reported to the international court, he said.
The losses might reach more than $1 billion, according to the source.
Turkish firms, which have invested nearly $1.5 billion in Turkmenistan in more than 800 projects, had $20 billion worth of contracts in the country as of the end of last year, according to figures provided by the Foreign Economic Relations Board of Turkey, or DEİK.
Kimiňki dogry
Türkmenistan(24%, 6 adam)
Türkiýe(32%, 8 adam)
Ikisi hem mamla(8%, 2 adam)
Ikisinde-de günä bar(36%, 9 adam)
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Ilamanyo, TM-de turk firmalarda ishleyan tanyshlaryn bardyr hokman, sholar bilen Skype'da salam-selik edishsen, bu gazetlerin aydyayndan has kop zatlary aydyp beryaler, bu menin maslahatym, men bu barada bu gazetlerdenem on eshitdim tanysh oglanlardan.
Muhammet Cap mashgalasy bilen gacyp gaytdy zordan, abilerinden sorap gor.
Bu yagday eyyam 1 yyl bari hemme ishgarlerin unsuni chekdi.Kabir firmalar pul alyp bilmani sebapli ishgarlerini aylyk berende 2-3 ay gich berdiler.Shonda eyyam anmak bolardy bu yagdayy.Gazetler bolsa bu barada yany-yakynlykda yazypdyr.Hany gorerisda sony name bilen gutaryar.
her tarapda oziche gowy ya erbet propaganda bar, bize dushyan oz kellani ishletmeli... bbc diysede zaman diysede al jazeera diysede...
Cihan bn Zamanyn baglanyşygy nämede? »» Cihan senzurasyz habarlary yetiryänliginde. Ihlasky yaly hojayynlarynyn islegine görä üytmetmeyänliginde. Zaman çeşme hökmünde Cihan'y ulalanson halk arasynda has bitarap diylip ynam gazandy.
Hurriyet masonlarynky diyipdim welin ara Güleni goşdun. Hurriyetin masonluguna delil, bu gazet gurlanda Ysrayylly biznesmenin goldawyna gurlup tr masonlar guramasynyn gözegçiligine berilmeginde.
Eysem Gülen mason bolsa Hurriyet yaly gazetler ony garalap öldürilmegini propoganda edermidi? Tobalay, bir gyrlyşyk bolsa aglap töwregindäkilerem agladyp bilyän täsirli dialog ilçisini beyle at bilen garalama gowusy. ABŞ nämüçin Gülene azar berenok »» menin pikirimçe ondan zyyan görmeyänligi üçin. Bilşime görä Gülen kesel, sagdyn wagtynda hem öyünden kän çykanok. Işi kitap yazmak.
Tanovech, men sana yene aydyan: o yashula sylagym uly. Yone senin ucin US-de duybi bolan hemme zat masonlarynky, muny on hem kan gaytaladyn. Menem sana shona gora sorag berdim.
Zaman bitarap gazet diymegin gulkinjirak. Yone konserwatiw gazet, hemme zady yazanok. Pro-government and pro-Islam pozisiyasy bar. Sensasiyadan gacyar. Her gazedin oz pozisiyasy bar. Islendik metbugaty ya mediany al-da goray. Cihan senzurasyz habarlary yetiryänliginde --- diyipsin. Senzurasyz habar agentlik diylen zat yok. Hersinin oz confirmation criteriasy bar. Duzgunden cyksalar sudun onunde jogap beryaler. Dunyadaki hemme metbugat sheyle. (Blog saytlardan bashga)
Firmalaryn kopusi TTM-lerin sponsory ya-da sponsorydy, senem olaryn duzundan iyensin. In bolmanda iki tarapa-da raydashlyk bildir. Hurriyet arwahynky bolanda-da yazylan zady analiz et, gazedi dal. Juda bolmasa tanyshlaryndan-bilishlerinden sorap gor. Cihan ajansyn bu barada entek yazmajagyny menden gowy bilyan. Hacan yazar? Hacan-da TTM-leri ymykly yapanlarynda yazar. Mana shu yerde kabir zatlary yazdyrma...ozun gowy bilyan.
azathabar.com-yn yazyan zatlaryna koplench at dakyanyz, emma men oz bilyan zatlaryma gora sho tayda yazylan zatlara hasam hayran galyan, koplench Turkmenistandaky yagdaydan has gowyrak edip yazyarlar sho tayda. Mysal uchin okuwa girmek barada yazylan makalada okuwa girmek uchin 10000$ diyip yazypdylar oydyan(yalnyshyan bolup bilerin), a aslynda name??? 10 000-e marydaky energiya institutyna giraymesen...chareler barada,yazylanlaram sheyle, aslynda turkmenistandaky kop zat azathabar.com-yn yazyanyndanam has beter...bashgada shona menzesh waka kan...
edil shu wakany yakyndan bilemok, emma gurlushyk firmalarynda ishleyan adamlardan sorashdyryp gorsen asyl yagdayyn hasam erbetdigine gownum yetyar.
Tanovech,
Hurriyet yalnysh yazan bolsa, ine shu taysy shu taysy yalnysh diyip barmak basyp gorkezsene, bizim bileli.
Hurriyet yalnys diyip aydan yerim bolmady. Birin-birin okap gor teswirlerimi. Haysysyna ynanmaly?(azathabar, hurriyet) Ikisininem asly ynamdar dal diydim
@Tanovech
Asla ynamdar cheshme yok hichyerdede. Her gazetyn, her jurnallaryn oz goryan hayyry bar, habarlaram bolee menee shona gora yazyarlar.
Her bir yazylan soze ynanmaly dal, yone ynamly cheshme yok diyip, her yazylan zadada yalan diyip dursan bolmayar.
Bize shu wagt bashga cheshme barmy shulardan bashga?
azathabar barada aydara uytgeshik zadam yok, sho tayda okap ozume taze zat gormedim, hemmesi bilyan zatlarym.
Biderek jedel edip oturmayyn. Haysysyna ynanjagyna ozun karar ber. Chunki diskussiya bashlady welin aytmadyk zatlarymy aydyp bashladyn »» ''amerikadaky ahli zat mason'' nireden chykardyn beyle zady? Hachan aydypdyryn? Diskussiyadan chykyan netije shu. Hich kim hich kimi yryp bilmeya. Zaman bitarap, in barkisi il arasynda ''bitarap'' diyip tanalya ya-da birini yere gomup propoganda etmeya.
Sende beyle dushunjelerin doremegi Ph.D Helen Rose Ebaugh'un aytmagyna gora ''tebigy zat''. Chunki Hurriyet we sh.m'dan iymitlenyanin gornup dur ya-da teswirlerin sheyle image doretdi.
Uly ilin bilyan hakykatyny yalan edip gorkezjek bolyan Tanovech, azda kande ynsabyn bar bolsa, kabul etmani bashar. Sen 'hizmetden iymitenenin ucin Cihan haber we Zaman diyip cabalanyp yatyrsynmy? Biraz merdirak bol. Hakykatlara kabul etmejek bolup, eylak yykylsanam, beylak yykylsanam, yene-de YALPYLDAPJYK dur. Bu hic kime yaranok, yone yaramayandygy ucin gormezlikden gelmek jemgyyeti hasam cuyredyar.
Bala, Hurriyet masonlanky diydim welin razy ya narazydygyny aytman goni bashga jogap berdin »» Zaman Guleninki.
Kabul edeli, bir tarapda Ysrayylyn Hurriyeti, bir tarapda Gulenin Zamany. Gulen dunyade dialog we tolerance ilchisi diyip tanalyan bolsa Ysrayyl yowuz hereketleri bilen tankytlara nyshana bolya. Dialogy undeyan Gulen'in Zamanyna ynanmak, zalym Ysrayylynka ynanmakdan has logical bolsa gerek.
Ph.D Helen Rose Ebaugh GULEN MOVEMENT barada gowy makala yazdy diyip, shondan mysal alan bolyan. Yogsam sen ony tananogam, ya onun anyrsyny hem yzarlajak bolanok. Fanatlykdan we ekstremismden dashlashyp, hemme zady bolshy yaly kabul etmegi basharsan, geljegin uly bolar. Gulen hem din, millet we irk dushmancylygyna garshy hemishe cykysh edyar. Hotya ol adamyn adyna ysnat getirme eger hakykatdanam sho adamyn supporteri bolsan.
[köp sag bol, tüys mana gerekli teswirdi]
Aydara sözün gutaran yerinde ynha şeyle garalama propogandasy in gowy çykalga hökmünde görülyär!
Yene-de asudalygymy gorayyn 🙂
Star; Bu gazet Geoden Levy (Ysrayylyn Haaretz gazetinin zhurnalisti), Fareed Zakaria (Newsweek zhurnalynyn redaktory, ABŞ) yaly dünyänin her künjegindäki meşhur yazyjylary özünde jemläp her tarapyn pikirini okayja yetiryä. Bala, Zamana ynamyn bolmasaa....
Zamana ynanyan. Zamantm.com-da cykyan habarlary hem her hepde internetde howes bilen okayan. Buysanjyma cydaman, bir gezek sho yerdaki makalalaryn birini mowzuk edip hem acdym, profilime girsen durandyr.
Yene bir zat, menin profilimde Altyn Asyr saytdan alnan habar hem bar, BBCden alnan habar hem bar, Zamandan alnan habar hem bar, her yerden bar. Girsen durandyr. Hurriyetden habar alanym ucin bu gezeklikce bagyshlarsynda...
Aytjak bolyan zadyn düşnükli. Yöne menin aydanlarym Zaman Türkiye babatdady, muny özünem bilyän. Yurdumyz BMG'nyn Metbugat Erkinligi baradaky konwensiyasyna goşulmandygy üçin Türkmenistandaky Zaman'yn aydyan zatlaryna hayran galmazlyk zerur. ZamanTm'yn içerki habarlarynyn çeşmesi kanuny taydan TDH bolmana mejbur, emma ZamanTr'da beyle düzgün yok. Gowsy saçmalama biderek zatlary aydyp gadyrdan 🙂
Hehe, gol ceken Konwensiyalarymyzn hemmesini yerine yetiryasmi? Name, Universal Declaration of Human Rights bize degishli dalmi? Gaty dasha gidip oturmaly, Konstitusiyadan yokarda zat yok. Name TDH gownun yetenokmy ya? Zaman Turkmenistan kanuny taydan TDH bolmaly diyen kanun yok, bosh zatlary yazma, yazyan zatlarymyz dereklimi ya biderekmi, goy bashgalar karar bersin, beryalerem 🙂.
garz alan dewletler hic basine galdirib bilmer
men esidsim turky zawodlar tmda turkmen islyanlera az aylik beryar.olar dina oz poly ocin tm gelyarler
turkmen halky ozy ayak ostina galmale
Bala, nämüçin biderek zatlary aydyp otyrsynay? Haysy hususy/döwlet neşiri TDH'dan habar çykarmaya? Hemmesinin ilkinji sahypasy TDH'nyn habary bilen başlaya, bu yazylmadyk kanun! ''Human rights decleration'' diyip näme diyjek bolyan? Türkmenistan BMG'nyn Metbugat erkinligi babatdaky konwensiyasyna goşulandygyny öne sürjek bolyanmy? Goşulmady, bilmeyän bolsan bilip goy. Şol sebäplem neşirlerde döwletin islemeyän zadyna garaşma. Başarsan et, başarmasanam gys ya-da bar git azathabaryna... yuwup başla beynileri.